Host Harry Robinson is joined by Wayne Barton, author of 20+ books on Manchester United, including the excellent recent publications Jimmy Murphy: The Man Who Kept the Red Flag Flying and Eternal: Duncan Edwards.

The pair chat after listening to the latest episode of United Through Time, a one-hour documentary on James W. Gibson, who served as club President from 1932 until his 1951 death. Harry and Wayne discuss the enduring legacy of his actions and vision as well as his similarity to United's new co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe.

You can buy Harry's book The Men Who Made Manchester United here and find him on Twitter here.

You can see all of Wayne's fantastic work here, and follow him on Twitter here.

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