Mark and Michael talk to former Special Forces Soldier, author, motivational speaker and SAS: Who Dares Wins' Ollie Ollerton about overcoming the ego, ayahuasca and seeing a childhood trauma through the eyes of a chimp.

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Recorded and edited by Victoria Payne and Lianne Coop for Impatient Productions. Artwork by Haiminh Le.

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