*please note: this episode was recorded in february 2023, before recent events regarding former first minister for scotland, nicola sturgeon*

mark and michael talk to model, dancer and apparently actor chiyo about cruising tactics, ethical chasing and the value of rage.

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Recorded and edited by Siren Turner and Alex Preston at Impatient Productions. Artwork by Haiminh Le.

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