Surprises that come with abrupt disruption can threaten the worldview relied on to make sense of the world. So what happens when not much makes sense anymore? In this episode, Ukranian theologian and passivist Ihor Kozlovsky talks about his experience recovering from torture and illegal imprisonment to share how to move through trauma that has become so ubiquitous in the world today. The episode features an intro with Liliya Sayvch, HR professional who hosted an expert panel on July 4th, 2023 to discuss how to remain Unbroken in tradition and spirit.

Mr. Kozlovsky was one of the panel experts. He speaks in Ukranian and interpreter Olesia provides the translation. This conversation is important because dark emotions and trauma can negatively impact decisions, leadership thinking, and our humanity at a time when being human is the primary differentiator from technology.

To provide a bit of an overview you'll hear:

4:08 Liliya Sayvch provides an update and sets the context for the discussion

9:00 3 things coming out of the expert panel on July 4th, 2023 that motivated the deeper conversation in this episode.

11:42 How has Mr. Kozlovsky processed his experience and made sense of his experience?

20:51 What kind of dark emotions stay with you and what can they teach?

25:46 What motivates soldiers? Hate or love?

28.31 When you are in dark places in your mind or surroundings how do you pull yourself out?

33:41 The three levels of intellectual abilities for overcoming trauma.

39:05 Finding a coherent sense of ourselves in the world around us.

40:51 What can Ihor's experience teach humanity about being compassionate and living on one planet?

46:42 Having survived a torturous experience do you retrieve meaning from the past or start anew?

1:00 The fourth layer of intellectual ability - social

1:06 Why these conversations matter today

1:11 The source: Emotional health and its relationship to polarization and conflict. A higher leadership call.

Ihor Kozlovsky references Fritz Perls: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Perls

Links to Ihor Kozlovsky's story:

https://babel.ua/en/amp/news/98187-a-ukrainian-historian-religious-scholar-and-former-prisoner-of-the-dpr-ihor-kozlovsky-died

https://df.news/en/2023/09/06/acclaimed-religious-scholar-researcher-and-former-political-prisoner-ihor-kozlovsky-dies/

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