In this final bonus episode of How to Proceed, Linn Ullmann talks about how the idea for this podcast started, and her thoughts one year later. Emmanuel Carrere's final question to the readers, "Are you happy? And do you think it is important to be happy?", made Ullmann think of one of her favorite poems, Having it Out with Melancholy by Jane Kenyon. Together with the other interviewers this season, she gives you a reading of this poem, as a final tribute to our wonderful listeners, to the silent pandemics in our lives, the melancholy that sometimes fills our hopes and floating moments, but also the hope and solitude, the glimpses of happiness and comfort, the beating heart of the bird.

“Having It Out with Melancholy” from Collected Poems. Copyright © 2005 by The Estate of Jane Kenyon. Used with the permission of Graywolf Press, Minneapolis, Minnesota, www.graywolfpress.org

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