This week, Vanessa and Casper explore the theme of Isolation in Chapter 32 of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix! They discuss Umbridge’s leadership, Hermione’s master plan, and Snape’s code! Throughout the episode we consider the question: how can we get creative to combat isolation?

Thank you to Annalisa for this week’s voicemail! Next week we're reading Chapter 33, Fight and Flight, through the theme of Anger with Matt Potts!

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