Surprise twins and soaked pyjamas with Francesca Segal

On the first episode of Birth Stories, Clemmie meets the author Francesca Segal. Francesca's identical twin daughters were born prematurely by emergency c-section at 30 weeks, and spent the first 56 days of their lives in a neonatal intensive care unit. Francesca and Clemmie discuss instincts, how it felt to be separated from the babies and what it was like when they finally came home. They also take a question about gender disappointment and how to come to terms with something you didn't expect.

This episode contains discussion about premature births.

Mother Ship by Francesca Segal is out now.

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Birth Stories is produced by Hannah Varrall and created by Off Script.

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