Killer Mike and El-P on optimism, protest, creativity and RTJ4

Atlanta-born Killer Mike and New Yorker El-P make up American hip hop duo Run the Jewels and they've just released their fourth album 'Run the Jewels 4'. Despite being written last year, this fire-fuelled album highlights stark realities of the world in 2020.   In a two-person special episode, they talk to Krishnan about optimism, protest, creativity and RTJ4.