Gab Marcotti and Natalie Sawyer are joined by Matt Hughes and George Caulkin. And it’s a very difficult podcast for Natalie as Brentford have lost their beloved boss.

Dean Smith and John Terry are the new team at the helm at Aston Villa. But given Terry was in the frame for the manager’s job, can he settle for a reduced role at Villa Park? A role that as Matt reveals, might not even be as number 2.

The Nations League is back as England prepare to face Croatia on Friday night. How excited should England fans be about Borussia Dortmund’s Jadon Sancho? And elsewhere, George talks to us about whether the legacy of Roy Keane’s post-playing career is misunderstood.

We also turn our attention to the battle to stay in the Premier League. Are Cardiff and Huddersfield lost causes as many suggest? And is staying up good enough for Newcastle?

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