# 39 Understanding Diversity with Frans Johansson

In this episode,Jason & Marcus catch up with diversity guru Frans Johansson. Join us as Frans shares what it was like growing up mixed race with with American roots in Sweden and how that ultimately influenced his understanding of diversity. Frans also outlines ways in which Sweden and the United States can improve to help battle against discrimination in the workplace, why we should be careful to not misuse A.I (Articifial Intelligence) and his philosophy on understanding and determining value in life.

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