Episode 4 Part 1 - Kay, Barnes & Jackson

This week's bumper episode comes to you in two parts as Ben Kay joins the guys in the studio...check out the first part to hear what the thinking was at board level behind Matt O'Connor's sacking at Leicester, listen to the guys disagreeing about the weekend's major talking point in Will Spencer's red card and find out what Wayne Barnes had to say about a urinal in New Zealand and a trip to Australia with Nigel Owens! And don't forget to check back tomorrow for Part 2...

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