Why New Zealand defeat gives the rest of the world hope

PLUS


Was Will Spencer correctly sent off, is this the best ever start to a Premiership season, will Argentina be as formidable in 2019 as they were in 2015 and is there cause to ban "jackling" and bring back rucking? 


Stephen Jones welcomes Stuart Barnes, Steven James and Alex Lowe for a lively half hour of debate. 


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