Military Surplus

Ken, Kevin and Martin are armed forces veterans. They were discharged from the military; their comrades never discovering why.

This Remembrance Sunday, for the first time, they’ve been invited to march past the Cenotaph. 


It’s a story of double lives, court payouts and military secrets - and what happened when three men told the truth.


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Until 12th January, 2000, it was illegal for gay, lesbian and bisexual people to serve in the British Army, Royal Navy and RAF.

If they were outed, they could lose their medals, their pensions and their jobs, and sometimes serve a prison sentence. The British Government finally apologised for the policy in 2020.


Thanks to Fighting With Pride, the LGBT+ military charity, for putting us in touch.


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Meanwhile, in the Zeitgeist, expectant father Ollie Peart - fresh from packing off his precious snood to the wilds of Colorado - has been investigating the trend for baby showers.

Have ‘gender reveal’ events taken over from ‘traditional’ showers?

Does anyone REALLY make nappy cakes and go nipple bobbing?

And is there a quieter, more British equivalent, please?


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Elsewhere, in the Foxhole, Alix Fox takes time off from plugging ‘Sex Education’ to ask: should self-pleasure ever be a guitly pleasure?


Listener ‘Worried Wanker in West Watford’ has begun secretly tossing one out in the shower each morning to satisfy his urges - while his partner’s sex drive has decreased due to anti-depression meds.

But the couple have a ‘no wanking in the house’ rule.

Is this sustainable?


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Finally, our record of the month is ‘Moody’ from the fabulous Self Esteem, whose new album drops on 22nd October. Finally, a song about mental health you can dance to!


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We’ll see you again on November 10th!


Host: Olly Mann. Producer: Matt Hill. Contributors: Ken Wright, Kevin Bazeley, Martin Diver, Ollie Peart, Alix Fox, Self Esteem. Theme Music: Django Django. Graphic Design: Terry Saunders. © Rethink Audio / Olly Mann 2021.


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