165: Sav Rodgers - The Life Changing Serendipity of Discovering Ben Affleck and Chasing Amy

Guest Overview 

Imagine being assigned female at birth, growing up feeling isolated at school, having your sexuality weaponized against you at age 12, by so-called friends, and coming out and identifying as pan-sexual at age 19, well this was the beginning of this week’s guest, Sav Rodgers’ life. 


We cover a lot of ground in this episode as Sav recounts the challenges he’s faced and had to overcome. Sav is a shining example of resilience in the face of ignorance and bigotry, strength of character, with an indomitable spirit to survive.  

With it being Pride month this interview could not be more timely. 

For anyone with children that are gender fluid, nonbinary, or genderqueer, Sav’s interview is a must-listen. 

Sav is now an award-winning writer and director, currently in the final stages of post-production with his first feature, called Chasing Chasing Amy, a documentary about how 1990’s Rom-Com Chasing Amy, directed by Kevin Smith and starring Ben Affleck, provided him with a depiction of fluid sexuality that helped Sav live his authentic self as pansexual, embracing the tagline of the movie

“It’s Not who you love, but how” 

Following his 2017 Ted talk, where Sav described the impact of Chasing Amy, he tweeted it and Kevin Smith, the director connected with Sav and is now collaborating with Sav on Chasing Chasing Amy. 

Sav and I go onto discuss the challenges we still face in the media with the limited casting of trans people in shows and films, and how the media reinforces LGBTQ bias and the need for changes in how sexuality is depicted in education. 

Sav’s life story, so far, is evidence of manifesting the life you want to live, and how serendipity opens doors and opportunities. 

Sav has expanded my understanding of sexuality and inspired me to learn more. I hope you enjoy the optimism and energy of Sav Rodgers. 

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Transgender resource

 Modern Vintage Gamer 

Chasing Amy

Kevin Smith 


Soap Dish 





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