"I am actually able to open up and be more truthful about how I felt" - Karen Hauer

Strictly Come Dancing star Karen Hauer joins Samantha Baines in this honest and emotional discussion about her two divorces. The two discuss the dark times, working with your ex and giving your friends keys. Karen opens up about her journey of self-discovery and how hard it was to let go. Both agree that pets get you through the toughest times and the importance of therapy. Sam also conjures a radio tuning metaphor that she is very proud of. This episode hit the headlines in the UK and internationally, please listen to the full podcast for context and tone.

Trigger warnings:

Depression/sadness

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