"run as fast as you can to the middle of nowhere" - Jen McGuire (and Pink)

Writer Jen McGuire joins Samantha Baines to discuss how the artist Pink encouraged her to leave her husband as well as her movie moment at an actual crossroads. Having your first child at 21, divorced at 30 and dealing with your kids leaving the nest all feature. The two discuss break up anthems, the importance of asking for help and that sometimes getting Chinese food and watching Bring It On is the best medicine.

Jen's book is called Nest.

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