A leading technology policy expert is calling for "a wholesale ban on TikTok" a day before the Chinese-owned social media app's chief executive officer will testify before Congress.

TikTok faces bipartisan scrutiny at both the state and federal level. More than 30 states, led by both Democrat and Republican governors, have taken action to ban the app on some or all state-issued devices and networks, The Daily Signal previously reported. TikTok’s chief executive officer, Shou Zi Chew, will appear before the House Energy and Commerce Committee on Thursday. 

"I think the TikTok national security threat is so grave, so immediate, that TikTok should be banned outright," says Kara Frederick, director of the Tech Policy Center at The Heritage Foundation. (The Daily Signal is the news outlet of The Heritage Foundation.)

Frederick, whose research focuses on emerging technology policy and Big Tech, adds that she is calling for "a wholesale ban on TikTok, not just on government devices." She talks about the danger of "allowing U.S. user data to get in the hands of the [Chinese Communist Party]."

Frederick joins today's episode of "The Daily Signal Podcast" to further discuss the TikTok CEO's testimony, what she would ask Shou if she were in the hearing, and The Heritage Foundation's "Moms Against TikTok" rally, which is also on Thursday. 

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