Glenn Fisher talks to advertising legend Cindy Gallop about why you shouldn't worry what other people think about you, the diversity problem facing the creative industry and the importance of a good night's sleep.


Cindy Gallop is a founder, consultant and activist. For over a decade she worked at BBH and set up their US office. She has since founded MakeLoveNotPorn and IfWeRanTheWorld. She now lives in The Sky Apartment in New York. Find out more about her by visiting her website here: http://cindygallop.com/

Glenn Fisher is an author, speaker and copywriter. His first book, The Art of the Click is an Amazon bestseller and was shortlisted for the Business Book Awards 2019. It's published by Harriman House and available now on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2QizhSz

You can find out more about MakeLoveNotPorn here: https://www.makelovenotporn.com/

You can find out more about The 3% Movement here: https://www.3percentmovement.com/

You can see Cindy's TED Talk launching MakeLoveNotPorn here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV8n_E_6Tpc

You can find the different 3% Conference talks Cindy talks about on their YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa0ajknnSUQ6bTmg83PRe9Q

You can watch P Diddy and others dancing in Cindy's old apartment here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufKxCclo7-c

Dave Trott's most recent book, Creative Blindness, is available on Amazon here: https://amzn.to/2m4mXXJ

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