This Is America: Byron Davis & Phil Allen, Jr.
“Ignorance is the beginning of enlightenment.”Byron Davis
Mass demonstrations continue to spread across the nation — and now, the world — for the 20th day and counting.
For many, this has been a wake-up call. An uncomfortable reckoning with the vast extent to which misuse of power, police abuse, and racism (both overt and covert) are baked into the very fabric of our nation.
But for black people, African Americans and people of color, that pain, violence, and fear is an everyday reality.
On a personal note, I’m determined to better understanding this unfortunate dynamic. The history that led to it. The systemic nature of it. The institutions that perpetuate it. And the solutions required for its long-overdue undoing.
Part of that commitment is sharing an increased diversity voices.
Towards that end, today I reconnect with my friend Byron Davis, alongside Pastor Phil Allen, Jr.
An O.G. podcast guest dating back to early 2013 (RRP #14), Byron is a former USA Swimming National Team member, American Record holder, UCLA All-American, and Ironman who holds the distinction of falling just three-tenths of a second shy of becoming the first African-American to make the USA Olympic Men's Swimming Team. A role model for thousands of young athletes, the obstacles Byron faced and overcame on his path to success is inspiring. With a Masters degree in Organizational Leadership, Byron is now a sought after speaker and consultant -- a special human with a penchant for helping others unleash their inner potential.
Phil is a pastor, teacher, poet, and the filmmaker behind Open Wounds, a powerful documentary that delves into the reality of intergenerational trauma through the story of his grandfather’s murder and the police’s subsequent refusal to investigate it (now available on Vimeo on demand). He is also the founding pastor of Own Your Faith Ministries in Santa Clarita, California and a second-year Ph.D. student at Fuller Theological Seminary studying Christian ethics and theology and culture, with a focus on Dr. King’s Theology and ethics, as well as the intersection of race theory and theology.
Today Byron and Phil share their perspective on the protests. The BLM movement as a whole. And its potential to catalyze significant structural change.
Bluntly put, this is an important conversation about what it means to be black in America.
It’s about the economic history of slavery in the United States.
It’s about the extent to which racism is perpetuated systemically — by way of policy, law, economics, politics & generations of socialization.
It’s about the ways in which white supremacy is embedded into the bedrock of our institutions — from religious and political to educational and judicial.
And it’s about confronting the pernicious manner in which racism lives, breathes, and persists — often completely unconsciously — within ourselves.
This country has arrived at a critical crossroads. A choice to implode or heal. The higher path demands responsibility. The awakening requires we examine history from a different perspective. It demands we define our personal and national values. And it dictates that we align those values with action. To dismantle what is broken. To rebuild our institutions. To reframe our relationships -- and ourselves.
Note: Regrettably, I was remiss in not exploring Phil's work as a spoken word artist during the conversation. I encourage you check out his performances on YouTube, starting with ‘Colorblind But Not Colorless’ — which I found particularly powerful. And while you're at it, read his most recent blog post, This Is America: Baptized in Whiteness.
Final Note: I highly recommend (especially for those experiencing resistance to this conversation) watching 13th on Netflix, a documentary analysis of the criminalization of African Americans and the U.S. prison boom — and a master class in contextualizing the systemic aspect of racism.
I’m grateful to Byron & Phil for their openness, patience & vulnerability. For sharing their perspective on race, personal encounters with racism, and stories of pain.
I truly believe that conversations like this are crucial if we want to finally transcend our past, learn, grow, and lead by example.
To echo Cornel West, what we don’t need are lukewarm folk. We don’t need 'summer soldiers’.
What we need are all season love warriors.
It is this spirit that I offer today's conversation. May you receive it with an open heart.
Peace + Plants,
Listen, Watch & Subscribe
Thanks to this week’s sponsors
Daily Harvest: Thoughtfully sourced, chef-crafted smoothies, bowls, soups and more — ready in five minutes or less. Go to dailyharvest.com and enter promo code RICHROLL to get twenty-five dollars off your first box.
Birch Living: The best, most affordable, organic, and sustainable mattresses on the market with a 100 night risk-free trail. 1% of each purchase is donated to the National Forest Foundation and Birch purchases carbon offsets for each mattress sold. For $200 off ALL mattress orders, visit BirchLiving.com/RichRoll
On Running: Born in the Swiss Alps, On Running is the world’s fastest-growing running brand. From their patented cushioning system to their gorgeous minimal design aesthetic, shoes & gear that performs and looks great too. Go to on-running.com/richroll, pick your favorite shoe or apparel piece and run in it for a 30 day risk-free trial, no questions asked.
For a complete list of all RRP sponsors, vanity URLs and discount codes, visit my Resources page and click "Sponsors".
- Connect With Phil: Website | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube| Own Your Faith
- Connect With Byron: Website | Instagram | Twitter | Book
- Vimeo: Open Wounds
- Essay: This Is America: Baptized In Whiteness by Phil Allen, Jr.
- Google Doc: Anti-Racist Resource Guide
- Google Doc: Anti-Racism Resources for White People
- New Era of Public Safety: A Guide to Fair, Safe, and Effective Community Policing
- Equal Justice Initiative: Tragic Death of George Floyd Reveals Continuing Problem of Police Violence
- TED: How we can make racism a solvable problem — and improve policing
- Campaign Zero: joincampaignzero.org
- 8 Can’t Wait: 8cantwait.org
- GoFundMe: George Floyd Memorial Fund
- Change.org: Justice for Breonna Taylor
- GoFundMe: George Floyd Memorial Fund
- Black Lives Matter: Resources
- Reclaim The Block: reclaimtheblock.org
- The Marshall Project: themarshallproject.org
- The Bail Project: bailproject.org
- Bail Funds: List of Bail Funds for Protestors
- NAACP: Legal Defense and Education Fund
- Run With Maud: runwithmaud.com
- Crooked Media: Vote Save America
- The Atlantic: The Case for Reparations by Ta-Nahisi Coates
- NY Times: The 1619 Project
- NY Times: 1619 Podcast
- Bad Form Review: Racism Reading List
- Sojourners: For Our White Friends Desiring To Be Allies
- The Ezra Klein Show: Why Ta-Nahesi Coates Is Hopeful
- Netflix: Black Lives Matter Collection
Related Podcasts You Might Enjoy
- RRP #014: Byron Davis - Live Your Epic Life
- RRP #243: Coach George Raveling on Breaking Civil Rights Barriers
- RRP #299: Shaka Senghor on Righting Wrongs
- RRP #304: Dominick Thompson on Compassion
- RRP #394: Knox Robinson on Running As Rebellion
- RRP #525: Roll On: Black Lives Matter
HOW CAN I SUPPORT THE PODCAST?
Tell Your Friends & Share Online!
Donate: Check out our Patreon account
Support The Sponsors: One of the best ways to support the podcast is to support our sponsors. For a complete list of all RRP sponsors and their respective vanity URLs and discount codes, visit my Resources page and click "Sponsors".
Thanks to Jason Camiolo for production, audio engineering and show notes; Margo Lubin and Blake Curtis for video, editing and graphics; portraits by Ali Rogers; copywriting by Georgia Whaley; and theme music by Tyler Piatt. Trapper Piatt & Hari Mathis.
*Disclosure: Books and products denoted with an asterisk are hyperlinked to an affiliate program. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.