Best of 2021: Stan Grant on how the world is changing, and how we can make it better.

Stan Grant is a journalist, international affairs analyst, author, professor and proud Wiradjuri man hwo lives in Sydney Australia. His new book "With the Falling Of The Dusk" is out now.

Of all the interviews I've done on this show - this is easily one of my all-time favourites.

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