Moms for Liberty Loves DeSantis—but They’ll Never Vote for Him

On this week’s The New Abnormal, extremism expert Jared Holt recounts his trip to a Moms for Liberty conference—and why DeSantis just can’t get the MAGA faithful to defect. Plus! A talk with political researcher Anat Shenker-Osorio about Democrats’ messaging woes. 

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