The New Abnormal

The New Abnormal hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie weigh in on President Donald Trump’s big meeting with the CEOs of three of America’s biggest retailers this week, and why executives seem to be done with his tariff policies. Then, Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah stops by to discuss why she won’t back down after Columbia University canceled her course on race and media. Plus, Courtney Hagle, the research director at Media Matters, joins the podcast to talk about the state of pro-Trump media in a post-tariff climate.

The New Abnormal hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie reflect on Pope Francis’ death at 88 and why the late pontiff was such a “breath of fresh air” in the current climate. Then, Garrett Graff, publisher of Doomsday Scenario, joins the podcast to discuss his latest piece on how the Trump administration’s defiance of the courts impacts the rule of law. Plus, ProPublica reporter Alec MacGillis stops by to talk about what a halt of data collection at the government means for climate change and more.

On this episode of The New Abnormal, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. gives a masterclass in gross incompetence as he waxes unpoetically about an “autism epidemic” during a news conference at the Department of Health and Human Services. “Everything he says is just wrong, and that has real-life repercussions because of the position that he's been given in this administration,” co-host Andy Levy said. Plus, science writer Adam Becker discusses his new book, More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley's Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity.

On this episode of The New Abnormal, co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy are convinced that White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s signature cross necklace is for display purposes only. “She violates the ninth commandment about not bearing false witness,” Levy said. Plus, MSNBC analyst and author Eddie Glaude, Jr., discusses how racism became America’s blindspot. Then legal scholar Andy Craig delves into how the Trump administration’s refusal to return Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia challenges the foundations of U.S law.

The New Abnormal hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie think the Trump administration’s handling of Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s wrongful deportation is a bad omen for its view of the constitution. Then, Douglas Rushkoff, author of Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires, joins the show to talk about all things tech bros. Plus! Formal federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner stops by to explain why America is in the midst of a constitutional crisis—and what to expect next.

President Trump appears to conflate political asylum seekers with mental asylums—much to the chagrin of The New Abnormal hosts Danielle Moodie, Andy Levy, and producer Jesse Cannon. “It's giving, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats,” added Cannon. Plus, Noliwe Rooks, professor of Africana Studies at Brown University, explores the uneven effects of school integrations in her new book, Integrated: How American Schools Failed Black Children.

On this episode of The New Abnormal, Republican math isn’t math-ing for hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy after the GOP-led House passed a budget framework to fund tax cuts for billionaires that would add $5.7 trillion to the government deficit. “That doesn't seem like a recipe for balancing a budget to me,” says Levy. Plus! New York Times chief TV critic James Poniewozik dissects Kristi Noem’s Homeland Security social media dramedy, and Vanderbilt University professor Dr. Jonathan Metzel on higher education’s crash course on authoritarianism.

The New Abnormal hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy say MAGA billionaires like Bill Ackman can’t act shocked by the Trump administration’s economic policies when the president ran on them. Then, The Bulwark editor Jonathan V. Last discusses why he believes the American-led world order is over. Plus, Semafor finance and business editor Liz Hoffman talks about why Wall Street is suddenly panicking about Trump's economic agenda.

On this episode of The New Abnormal, Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert’s attempt to throw sticks and stones embarrassingly backfires as she confuses filmmaker Oliver Stone for conservative political strategist Roger Stone in a congressional hearing on the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy Jr. Plus! Author Chad Lewis examines how foreign interests have influenced Trump’s inner circle in his new book ​​The Persuasion Game.