How did Leigh Sales & Annabel Crabb create one of the kindest places on the internet? Together they spill what they've learnt about kindness, community and friendship with host Shirley Chowdhary.

Both Sales and Crabb are two of Australia’s most high-profile political journalists, but away from their day jobs, they don’t take themselves too seriously. They love to laugh, talk about the latest TV shows, and poke fun at each other.

For a decade, Sales has been the anchor of the ABC’s flagship current affairs program 7.30. Crabb, meanwhile, has often graced our television screens with her political commentary and as the host of shows like Kitchen Cabinet and Ms Represented.

The pair are close friends and have hosted a wildly popular podcast together for years, Chat 10 Looks 3, where they’ve built a close-knit community of (mostly) women, who openly share stories about their lives, books, TV, and cooking in a private Facebook group.

They've also just released Well Hello: Meanderings from the World of Chat 10 Looks 3, and refreshingly candid about their friendship, with Annabel saying the beauty of their podcasting and writing partnership is that it doesn’t feel like work.

The Leadership Lessons is produced by Agenda Media, publisher of Women's Agenda, and made possible thanks to the excellent support of Salesforce.

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