Episode 24: Chris O’Connell talks about surviving suicide


This week on the Changed Podcast, guest Chris O’Connell gets vulnerable. And I mean really vulnerable. Talking about mental illness, health and well-being is challenging. Though thanks to people like Chris, maybe a bit less so…



As a NED and consultant on leadership, change management and recruitment, Chris is on a mission to help leaders build purpose led businesses that perform while making room for vulnerability and good mental health in the workplace.









In this very important conversation on the Changed Podcast we talk about removing the mask, and understanding the role of mental health in the workplace. This includes the topic of surviving suicide. This topic isn’t easy, and we do not dance around it, but it is crucial that we de-stigmatize these kinds of conversations so that more people can get the important help they need to find the resilience they want.





I am grateful to Chris for being honest, for being open, and being willing to answer my questions. This conversation took some unexpected turns for me.





Takeaways from this conversation:



Suicide is more common than most of us care to admit, ideating suicide even more so, and 2020 has seen a steep increase in the number of people opting out. I cannot think of a more pivotal experience, then thinking you are ready to die, and choosing to live instead.





When it comes to surviving suicide, or thoughts of suicide, there are a couple of mental frames Chris and I discussed.





  1. Don’t just think about the people in your life and whether or not you think they’d be better with or without you. Instead, imagine yourself in their shoes. Really try and see it from their point of view. Perhaps the desire to spare them from the intensity of pain they might go through with your loss, might be enough to stall you until you can seek help.
  2. Consider that the idea of relief through suicide, might be an unkind, temporary lie your brain is telling you. The truth is we have no clue what happens to our souls when we die. Perhaps there is heaven and hell. Perhaps it all just stops. Maybe we get reincarnated. The point is… we don’t know. There simply is no way to verify. And that means, there is no guarantee that things improve in anyway for you. There may be no relief. It could be worse.
  3. We think it is unet