Guilty, guilty, guilty: Processing the Chauvin verdict

The guilty verdict in the trial of Derek Chauvin for the murder of George Floyd brought up a wave of emotions for a beleaguered nation who watched it read live on Tuesday afternoon. For the first time in the history of the state of Minnesota — over 160 years — a white police officer was convicted for killing a Black civilian while on duty. Should this give us hope about the future of police accountability and racial justice in America? Or is this just a lone data point? Michael Isikoff, Daniel Klaidman and Victoria Bassetti are joined by Yahoo News reporter Crystal Hill who covered the trial, and then by Dr. Nakia Gordon, a neuroscientist and psychology professor at Marquette University, who talks about the range of emotional responses to what was at the core of this trial: the denial of a person’s humanity.


  • Crystal Hill (@crysnhill), reporter, Yahoo News
  • Dr. Nakia Gordon (@Nakia_S_Gordon), Assistant Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology at Marquette University


  • Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff), Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo News
  • Daniel Klaidman (@dklaidman), Editor in Chief, Yahoo News
  • Victoria Bassetti (@VBass), fellow, Brennan Center for Justice (contributing co-host)




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