Interludes: Dream Recurred

Dream Recurred features the voice of Amy Sherald who shares her reflections based on her practice and new work For love, and for country (2022).

'For love, and for country' features in 'The World We Make', Sherald's first solo show in Europe. In this new body of work, Sherald humanises the Black experience by depicting her subjects in both historically recognisable and everyday settings, at once immortalising them and reinserting them into the art historical canon.

View 'For love, and for country' here whilst listening to Axel's sonic response throughout this episode.


Interludes is a collaboration between Shade Podcast and Axel Kacoutié featuring six contemporary artists: Amy Sherald, Ming Smith, Phoebe Boswell, Rahima Gambo, Nnena Kalu and Cassi Namoda.

Framed by the question "What does healing sound like?", these podcasts offer a visceral connection with the artists' work. In each episode we weave the artists' reflections through Axel's original soundscapes, as a collaborative exploration of their creative experience.

The aim is to soften our tendency to intellectualise artwork, and instead create a sonic texture that is more intimate in its connection with the artist.


Concept & Production by Lou Mensah

Created by Axel Kacoutié

Interludes is supported by Hauser & Wirth

Read more about this series in Hauser & Wirth Ursula Magazine


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