Two Women Walk Into A Bar...

Narelda Jacobs and Stevie Cruz-Martin grace Cam and Ali's virtual bathroom in the depths of Sydney lockdown. They talk about how they support each other's dreams, what needs to change in Australia, and the story of how they met that's straight out of a rom-com.


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Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo

Guests: Narelda Jacobs and Stevie Cruz-Martin

Managing Producer: Elle Beattie

Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball

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Separate Bathrooms would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, the First Peoples of the land on which we work. We acknowledge that sovereignty was never ceded, and recognise their enduring connections to country, knowledge and stories. We pay our respects to Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all First Nations people listening.

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