Sanjeev Sabhlok

Data, not all of it shared with the public, clearly shows that harsh lockdowns are leading to an increase in non-coronavirus related deaths. Australia’s response is so overbearing that Sanjeev Sabhlok calls it “The Great Hysteria.” Today we talk with Sanjeev about his perspective on the pandemic and why he quit his job as a senior economic advisor for the Victoria government as a form of protest. We open our conversation by diving into Sanjeev’s past as a political reformer in India before chatting about how the Victoria government has failed to consider the vast array of issues that are affected by the lockdown.

We then get into his crusade to get the right answers from the people in charge.


After exploring the state’s panicked response, Sanjeev places COVID-19 in historical context while comparing it to other pandemics that arise every 30 years. We touch on different approaches that the government could take, including age-based risk management, increasing their transparency, and applying context-specific solutions — as opposed to creating rules that are enforced even in ridiculous circumstances. Near the end of the episode, Sanjeev explains why he’s not fearful of the virus and we discuss what’s needed for Victoria to change their lockdown policy. Tune in for a balanced view of the pandemic, along with insights into why we need data-driven and not fear-based leadership



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