Swot vs Blot – The Sunak-Johnson Smackdown

As the shine comes off the Prime Minister and the Cabinet gets fractious, is the country ready for a brutal Rishi-on-Boris battle? Special guest Gracie Bradley, interim director of Liberty, takes us through the Government’s suite of repressive civil liberties legislation. What can listeners can do about them? Plus, in the Extra Bit, the frankly astonishing tale of teenage Minnie Rahman’s meeting with… David Cameron? 

  • “Boris Johnson has no principles. Rishi Sunak has terrible principles. Take your pick.” – Ian Dunt
  • “It’s a complete myth that Boris Johnson is a libertarian. As London Mayor he a bought a water cannon. There’s nothing libertarian about him.” – Gracie Bradley
  • “The Home Office is using the costs of cases against them for behaving unlawfully as a reason to cancel judicial review. Why not just stop behaving unlawfully?” – Ian Dunt
  • “We don’t protest because there’s a law that says we can protest. We protest because it’s our freedom to do so.” – Gracie Bradley


Presented by Naomi Smith with Ian Dunt and Minnie Rahman. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.

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