Sorry, Not Sorry with Gemma Cairney and Tobi Oredein

How do you Choose Pleasure when you're running your own business and working Sundays?! This week Gemma Cairney chats with inspiring journalist and entrepreneur Tobi Oredein, to discuss how she built lifestyle platform Black Ballad and why the next generation are embarking upon DIY careers. Tobi unapologetically champions what pleasure means to her...from 2pm lie-ins to replacing all-night raves with old school dinner parties.

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