The New Statesman Podcast: Episode Forty-Nine

On this week's New Statesman podcast, George Eaton and Lucy Fisher talk to Caroline Crampton about Labour's need to engage the blue-collar vote, N​S editor Jason Cowley explains why Brazil will be the last authentic World Cup tournament, Philip Maughan talks to Baileys and Goldsmiths Prize-winning novelist Eimear McBride, and Yo Zushi interviews Texas-based musician Jerry David DeCicca, frontman of the Black Swans, who plays us out. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy