On this week's episode of the New Statesman Podcast, Stephen Bush, Anoosh Chakelian and Ailbhe Rea discuss the weekend's Black Lives Matter protests and the toppling of the Edward Colston statue in Bristol. Then, in You Ask Us, they tackle the counterfactual of whether Jeremy Corbyn and Keir Starmer's time as Leader of the Opposition would've been more effective in the reverse order.

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