Aaron Dessner, The National + Big Red Machine

We interrupt this period of downtime for Midnight Chats to deliver a special one-off bonus episode with Aaron Dessner.


Some of us made banana bread during the 2020 Covid-19 quarantine... Aaron co-wrote and co-produced The GRAMMYs' Album of the Year folklore with Taylor Swift – a fruitful creative partnership that's continued into 2021.


This week (27 August 2021) Big Red Machine – his collaborative project with Bon Iver's Justin Vernon – will release their second album How Long Do You Think It's Gonna Last? 


Greg Cochrane called up Aaron at his twin brother Bryce's home in France, to talk about his friendship with Vernon, the experience of working with Taylor Swift and The National's first post-pandemic meet up.

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