In a special, long-awaited edition, and celebrating the 50th episode of menkind, Mark talks to the actual Michael Chakraverty - best known as his co-host - about ways of existing, finding your people, and reasons for not swimming.

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Recorded and edited by Lianne Coop at Impatient Productions. Artwork by Haiminh Le.

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