Last weekend's referendum defeats have jolted the political establishment. How could all major parties and many other players have got it so badly wrong - and does the failure reveal something deeper going on?

To discuss this, Hugh is joined by Jack Horgan Jones, Theresa Reidy and Jane Suiter.

They discuss the the impact of the results on Irish politics, the role and effectiveness of citizens assemblies, and whether opposition to 'wokeness' is a genuine force in Irish politics.

Dr Theresa Reidy is a senior lecturer and head of department at the Department of Government and Politics, University College Cork.

Jane Suiter is Professor in DCU's School of Communications and director of DCU's Institute for Future Media, Democracy and Society.

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