#35 Our Flawed Fight Against ISIS: Maajid Nawaz: How Do We Fix It?

Before The U.S. and other nations can be successful against
Islamic State (ISIS) and other global jihadists, we must understand
the difference between Islam and Islamism. That's the argument from
our guest on this week's episode, Maajid Nawaz.

"It happens to be that today we are dealing with an insurgency
that's rising and growing within my own Muslim community," he says.
It doesn't help to deny it."

A Sunni Muslim and a former Islamist fundamentalist, who is
founding chairman of the London-based counter-terrorism foundation,
Quilliam, Maajid makes a powerful argument for freedom, tolerance
and respect.

He says that President Obama and many other liberal-minded
politicians and journalists have been reluctant to call Islamist
ideology by its proper name. "Here's where people become paralyzed
by political correctness," he argues. "We are unable to say
'Islamist extremism' as distinct from Islam the religion."

"I call this the Voldemort affect," citing the villain in the