Vanessa and Matt explore the theme of Triumph in Chapter Fifteen of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban! This week they discuss Gryffindor's big win, Hermione's out of character behavior, and Trelawney's dedication to feuding with children. Throughout the episode we consider the question: how can we think of triumph in a way that doesn't put down others?

Thank you to Amber for this week’s voicemail! Next week we're reading Chapter 16, Professor Trelawney’s Prediction, through the theme of Rest.

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