74. Looking for hope in lockdown ft. Isy Suttie

The official GrownUpLand advice for lockdown is: Keep calm > don't lose hope > listen to podcasts. Sophie Duker, Heidi Regan and Ned Sedgwick are joined by comedian and writer Isy Suttie to catch up on their lockdown experiences. Sophie wrecks the myth that the virus is 'the great equaliser', Heidi brings us some much needed good news, Ned has been curating curious creativity and Dr Kat McClenaghan checks in to describe life on the forefront of the virus fight. Steve Ali pops in (virtually) to give us his perspective on the last few weeks.

Co-created by Deborah Frances-White for The Spontaneity Shop and BBC Radio 4.

Produced by Al Riddell.

Music by Mark Hodge and Omahrose, produced by Nick Sheldon.