5, 6, 7, 8...Boys, the trouble with boys...That's right, it's The One With The Routine, as chosen by our guest this week the author and campaigner Natasha Devon MBE (that's right, our first MBE on the show, we're going up in the world).

If you want to come say hi we're @FriendsWF on Twitter PLUS we have a BRAND NEW INSTAGRAM. It's @fwfpod, because our Twitter handle had already been taken by someone with 3 followers (bastards) - but please come and find us on there so we have more followers than just the two of us.

And do go and check out Natasha's podcast Fact or Bull on any of the usual podcast outlets.

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