Kate talks turning 40, Doree discusses her success working with a financial coach, and they both share some of their fave vegetarian recipes. Then they welcome Gourmet Makes host Claire Saffitz, who details her journey to becoming a recipe-testing YouTube star, growing from your failures, and the joys of making time for yourself.

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