Kate and Doree reminisce about who first taught them about makeup, skincare, and self-care. Plus Doree details the emotional side of purging her home office, and Kate talks about the spa day that got her through the recent anniversary of her mom's death. Then they're joined by TV writer, author, and Feminist Ryan Gosling creator Danielle Henderson, who dishes on her unique path to becoming a TV writer, how crafting and letter-writing keep her calm, and washing her face with sugar.

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