This week Kate and Doree talk to Jolenta Greenberg and Kristen Meinzer, co-hosts of the By The Book podcast, about what it’s like to immerse themselves in self-help books, having a “work wife”, and how work can be self-care. Plus, Kate discusses the joy of unplugging on her recent vacation, Doree digs into the real estate market, and they share the books they’ve been loving and what they have on their respective To Be Read lists.

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