Understanding ISIS with Tom Holland

Fresh from his recent Channel 4 documentary, 'Isis: The Origins of Violence,' which traces the root of Islamic extremism, Tom Holland is back on the podcast, this time to speak with Dan about understanding ISIS. In the wake of recent attacks, it may be difficult to understand this extremism, but the first step is to learn its history. In a discussion of conflicting ideologies and interpretations, Holland explains how extremism was the result of centuries of built-up tension. They explore how competing religious and political systems with universalist outlooks have come to a head. They discuss the Quran, concepts of morality, and philosophy. Learn how a schism within the Islamic world has had global implications. This episode is for anyone seeking to gain some context behind this modern conflict. Tom Holland @holland_tom returns, this time to speak about ISIS. In the wake of recent attacks, it may be difficult to understand this extremism, but the first step is to learn its history.


In a discussion of conflicting ideologies and interpretations, Holland explains how extremism was the result of centuries of built-up tension. They explore how competing religious and political systems with universalist outlooks have come to a head.


They discuss the Quran, concepts of morality, and philosophy. Learn how a schism within the Islamic world has had global implications. This episode is for anyone seeking to gain some context behind this modern conflict.


Tom Holland is a historian, author, and television presenter. He has published several books, including 'Rubicon: Triumph and Tragedy of the Roman Republic,' 'Persian Fire,' and 'Millennium: The End of the World and the Forging of Christendom.' His most recent television programme, 'Isis: The Origins of Violence, traces the root of Islamic extremism and is available to stream on 4OD.

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