Do defenders of our rights and freedoms have any themselves within the Defense 'ecosystem'?

Dr Kay Danes OAM has a wealth of experience in dealing with individuals and families that have been involved with the Department of Defense. Her own family has a history within Australia's defense forces. It is difficult for members of the defense forces that submit complaints to the hierarchy to get a hearing and when complaints are entertained it appears to go into a secretive black hole. There is an absence of transparency and openness about the process through which members of the forces are put if they speak up about problems. It is clear from this conversation that returned soldiers seeking some form of justice feel they are playing in a game where the deck is loaded against them.

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