How do we as creative make a living? As creative we are very passionate, but how do we pay the bills? Why is it so hard to make money as a creative? How do we trade passion for cash? 

We talk about the following:

24 Hour Musical https://www.24hourmusical.com.au 

Memorable Marketing Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/2vqAFsWORwHlLRGlPSYahn?si=6984227f291449f9 

Landing page for Zane’s podcast https://podcast.leadexpander.com

Thomas company LeadExpander https://www.leadexpander.com 

I Will Not Read Your Effing Script https://www.villagevoice.com/2009/09/09/i-will-not-read-your-fucking-script/ 

Zanes top 3 List 

Bidentity? Show 

Dogville Lars von Trier  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogville 

TNC Podcasting https://podcast.leadexpander.com 

Thomas Top 3 List 

Spectrum Films https://www.spectrumfilms.com.au 

Josh Pomeranz https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1465498/ 

Gayby Baby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayby_Baby

Wolf And Sheep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_and_Sheep

R.D. Robb https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0730222/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 

Don's Plum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27s_Plum 

Leonardo Di Caprio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_DiCaprio 

Tobey Maguire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobey_Maguire 

Zentropa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zentropa 

One Point O https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_1.0 

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