Jonathan Van Ness and Katie Malia

Margaret chats with her bestie/former-hair-stylist-turned-famous-comedian Jonathan Van Ness, about coming out as non-binary, imposter syndrome, and his unconventional rise to fame. Jonathan shares his XXX alternate ending to Game of Thrones!


Then, Margaret sits down with dancer, actor, and writer Katie Malia to discuss the hapa experience, the power of movement, and why cutting bangs does not always spark joy (thanks, Marie Kondo!)


Theme music by Garrison Starr.

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