Season 1 Episode 15: Hari Kunzru And Gone-Off Melon

This week's guest is acclaimed award-winning novelist, Hari Kunzru. One of my favourite writers, someone who asks big questions about the world. Who better to get on to the podcast than someone as smart as him. We discuss internet surveillance, kids arguing about god, gone-off melon and his new novel, Red Pill, which is a paranoid novel about art and why we tell stories, and far right radicalisation. It's an exceptional book.

Welcome to Brown Baby, a podcast about parenting and kids and family that asks the question, how on earth do we raise our kids to be joyful and boundless in a bleak world we’re so sad and angry about.

Hosted by me, Nikesh Shukla, a writer, a dad of two and a forty year old man who recently returned to the basketball court because he watched The Last Dance in 2020 and thought, I used to be a super sharp shooter when I was younger.

Each week, I interview fellow parents of brown babies - writers, musicians, chefs, comedians, actors and more - to talk about their parenting journeys and the highs and lows they’ve experienced along the way.


This is a podcast Inspired by my memoir, Brown Baby: A Memoir of Race, Family and Home. A frank, funny and poignant look at parenting, Brown Baby will spark honest, self-effacing conversation about how we tell our kids about the world. Featuring parenting fails, plus the best (and worst) advice Nikesh and his guests have ever received, this is the comforting, uplifting podcast for anyone who’s ever found themselves searching for answers in a sleep-deprived Google hole.

Here is a link to a affiliate shop where you can buy all the books from previous guests:

Brown Baby: A Memoir Of Race, Family And Home:

Red Pill by Hari Kunzru:

Hari's essay 'The Wages Of Whiteness':

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