Advocacy is the name of the game in this episode when Jo Stanley and Mignon Stewart catch up with MasterChef star and Beyond Blue spokesperson Julie Goodwin. Julie tells all about her moment when she realised she couldn't do it all and the role that anxiety and depression have played in her life. She also tells us what she learned about the power of stepping back and seeing where others stepped forward!

Plus Julie shares her cooking fails and makes us all feel more human!

Then Jo tells us about listening to Beyonce's album and not noticing the ableist slurs in there, but finding out about Hannah Diviney's advocacy as a writer and disability activist and her power to challenge both Lizzo and Beyonce with the words they've used in their songs.

(FYI there are a few f bombs in this little Beyonce bit!)

Hannah joins Jo and Mignon to fill them in.

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