Pain and Glory: Making agony entertaining

Pedro Almodóvar returns with Pain and Glory, a deeply personal film about an ageing film director (played by Antonio Banderas) struggling with the physical and psychological ailments that are preventing him from making films.

Hen, Anna and Pete tuck into Pedro's pain, exploring how the director joins the ranks of artists across cultures who have worked out how to make their personal tragedy accessible to a wide audience. This episode also features ... moon-eyed discussions about Kendrick Lamar's genius, PERSONAL INFORMATION on the PERSONAL LIFE of Anna Bogutskaya (kind of) and the first ever Bigger Picture remix, spun by producer Pete out of our chat about Jeremy Deller's brilliant acid house documentary Everybody in the Place: An Incomplete History of Britain 1984-1992.

The Bigger Picture, presented by the BFI, is ...

BFI Digital editor Henry Barnes

Anna Bogutskaya,'s Head of Arts and Culture

Producer Peter Sale


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